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l zw Windows有未记录在文档中的API来表示这件事……

ThinkBou 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5……

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    ThinkBou 现在比较在意的一些问题:

    1. Windows 11 24H2是不是会默认开启Hotpatch,目前发布会没说。感觉没有,如果有微软绝对会吹Copilot+ PC有无感更新。
    2. 曾经的一些零散功能,比如AI景深壁纸、桌面贴纸等功能是不是还有后续
    3. 微软如何处理Windows Server 2025和Windows 11 LTSC 2024。
    4. 看起来Copilot不再成为任务栏固定按钮的一部分,而是一个普通的App的位置(根据发布会现场演示设备截图)

      这样,T先生使用Copilot的方式就遥遥领先了[doge](

      l zw 之前Azure上的Server 2022是整个CU都用的hotpatch啊……

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        ThinkBou 那每三个月还要基线更新干啥(

        hotpatch要在编译时就指定,实际使用时还会增大内存占用,范围过广就不划算了

        我看过17784/26xxx的,都是仅内核安全更新

          l zw 整个CU做hotpatch和基线版本也不冲突啊,这本身就是hotpatch的交付方式的一部分

          每次热更新微软都会提供文件列表,更新内容都写着呢……

          • l zw 回复了此帖

            ThinkBou Windows Server 2022 Hotpatch Hotpatch x64-based
            "File name","File version","Date","Time","File size"
            "SQLSRV32_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","798,720"
            "keyiso_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","118,784"
            "ncryptprov_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","516,096"
            "ci_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","1,022,144"
            "crypt32_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","1,505,576"
            "win32kbase_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","3,194,880"
            "vmwp_hotpatch.exe","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","2,964,208"
            "ncrypt_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","216,392"
            "clfs_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","497,120"
            "netlogon_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","909,312"
            "IpsPlugin_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","172,032"
            "cldflt_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","577,536"
            "dns_hotpatch.exe","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","2,330,624"
            "computecore_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","980,448"
            "dwmcore_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","4,292,608"
            "vmms_hotpatch.exe","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","16,065,904"
            "ntfs_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","3,266,032"
            "mprapi_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","573,440"
            "Windows.Storage_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","9,662,072"
            "vmcompute_hotpatch.exe","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","4,408,816"
            "VmDataStore_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","730,592"
            "dhcpssvc_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","1,138,688"
            "win32kfull_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","4,124,672"
            "rasmans_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","1,114,112"
            "wdstftp_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","536,576"
            "mprapi_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","439,808"
            "win32kfull_hotpatch.sys","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","2,805,248"
            "Windows.Storage_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","6,799,944"
            "ncrypt_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","153,600"
            "ncryptprov_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","387,072"
            "crypt32_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","1,067,232"
            "SQLSRV32_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","696,832"
            "keyiso_hotpatch.dll","10.0.20348.2458","30-Apr-2024","10:49","69,632"
            确实范围要大些,但是仍很有限,即使同版本的完整累积更新也是仅安全更新,更新的文件还是比热补丁要多。

            ThinkBou 看起来Copilot不再成为任务栏固定按钮的一部分,而是一个普通的App的位置(根据发布会现场演示设备截图)

            我的注意力很好嘛😎😎😎

            Releasing Windows 11, version 24H2 to the Release Preview Channel
            As part of this update, we’re also evolving the Copilot** experience on Windows as an app that will be pinned to the taskbar.


            2024年5月25日更新:看起来微软确实是在最近才决定把Copilot从右下角移动到中间。昨天微软中国上传的Surface, Windows 11 AI PC的产品视频,Copilot按钮赫然出现在右下角……

            最近微软向RP推送了24H2预览版,版本号26100.712。在这个版本的预置Recall首次启动视频中,Copilot按钮也是在右下角的……

            %windir%\SystemApps\MicrosoftWindows.Client.AIX_cw5n1h2txyewy\FirstRunExperience\Assets:

            但是问题是……微软在YouTube上发布的视频,和发布会上的视频,Copilot按钮都是在中间的。

            现在我们已经知道了,微软宣布Copilot成为独立应用,Copilot不再成为任务栏固定按钮的一部分,而是一个普通的App的位置。但是如果你以为是Windows CoPilot MSIX Pack/Windows Copilot Frame MSIX Pack,那就天真了。实际上,26100.712中新的Copilot已经变成了PWA。

            我以上说这么多,就是想表明一个事情。Windows Copilot已经实质性被砍了。这件事情是从预览版中撤销去年9月引入的新体验开始的:

            Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22635.3570 (Beta Channel)
            Over the last few months, we’ve been trying out different experiences for Copilot in Windows (Preview) with Windows Insiders across the Canary, Dev, and Beta Channels. Some of these experiences include the ability for Copilot in Windows to act like a normal application window and the taskbar icon animating to indicate that Copilot can help when you copy text or images. We have decided to pause the rollouts of these experiences to further refine them based on user feedback. Copilot in Windows will continue to work as expected while we continue to evolve new ideas with Windows Insiders.

            接下来,微软决定降低Copilot在Windows中的显眼程度,也就是从右下角移动到中间。

            如果你不相信Windows Copilot被砍,那么可以试试之前提到过的技能[1][2],这些技能全部废了。


            Copilot变傻的速度比Cortana快了5倍,遥遥领先!

            有意思的是,微软中国拿到了之前的某个版本的Surface产品视频,让这件事的变化过程明晰起来。但是他们现在搞这些的变化之频繁,我实在不敢想象当时在键盘上加上Copilot按钮的操作是多么随意、以后Recall或者其它什么是不是会被突然间砍掉……
            微软这帮营销鬼才,能够把Windows Copilot被砍的这件事掩盖的这么隐蔽。

            营销团队用"updated Microsoft Copilot"、"reimagining what can do on Windows"、"easier than ever to call on"、"simplifying the experience"把这件事掩盖过去了

            难怪Yusuf做了高管


            所以,直到今天,我们也不清楚当时Panos Panay到底为Windows Copilot规划了什么……

              23680.ni_current_directwex_dev.240407-0730


              微软的开发和交付一团糟。想在哪开发就在哪开发,想在哪交付就在哪交付。

              Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22635.3570 (Beta Channel)
              Over the last few months, we’ve been trying out different experiences for Copilot in Windows (Preview) with Windows Insiders across the Canary, Dev, and Beta Channels. Some of these experiences include the ability for Copilot in Windows to act like a normal application window and the taskbar icon animating to indicate that Copilot can help when you copy text or images. We have decided to pause the rollouts of these experiences to further refine them based on user feedback. Copilot in Windows will continue to work as expected while we continue to evolve new ideas with Windows Insiders.

              Releasing Windows 11, version 24H2 to the Release Preview Channel
              As part of this update, we’re also evolving the Copilot** experience on Windows as an app that will be pinned to the taskbar.

              ThinkBou 实际上,26100.712中新的Copilot已经变成了PWA。

              ThinkBou Windows Copilot已经实质性被砍了。
              如果你不相信Windows Copilot被砍,那么可以试试之前提到过的技能[1][2],这些技能全部废了。


              Copilot变傻的速度比Cortana快了5倍,遥遥领先!

              现在为什么这样,为什么怎么做,咱们不清楚,咱们也不敢问(

                ThinkBou 我个人想吐槽的是 Win32 App isolation,还以为今年 Build 可以再提提的,一点动静都没有……

                  DaleZ 还是有的,只不过没什么人关注而已(
                  Unleash Windows App Security & Reputation with Trusted Signing


                  DaleZ 您在另一个帖子里面的感谢开发 Recall 之言还是撤了好(

                  实际上我想表达的是能够今日可用已经远远超出了我的预期了,Windows 11发布以来好多东西都是搞PPT发布,这次Recall这些Copilot+ PC独占功能今日可用,表明他们还是真的想干一些的(

                    ThinkBou emm……直接搜好像没搜到……


                    ThinkBou Windows Copilot已经实质性被砍了。

                    太糟糕了,之前那些给它下放用来访问程序功能的插件包也被删除了吗?
                    另:考虑到他们的暂停=无限期推迟=砍掉,您在另一个帖子里面的感谢开发 Recall 之言还是撤了好(
                    原本还真的想回到以前的粉的,这么一揭露,还是继续做个不定式的好。

                      DaleZ 用来访问程序功能的插件包

                      你具体指什么……

                        ThinkBou 就是那些为了 Copilot 可以启动程序更改系统程序“独占”的一部分 WFEP 啊……
                        另外,现在回到还是侧边栏的时代那个旧的可以操作系统的版本还能用吗?


                        ThinkBou 我还是认为我记得为 Copilot for Windows 提供启动程序更改系统的能力的文件在一个独立的 WFEP/AIX 包里面来着的……

                          DaleZ Copilot并未集成到WFEP中,从开始到结束,这个东西一直就是一个Edge提供的特殊页面,或者Windows CoPilot MSIX Pack/Windows Copilot Frame MSIX Pack。如果你指AIX,那么这个东西是Recall。

                          Windows Copilot被砍,估计和Bing、Windows彻底分家有关系。

                            ThinkBou 能显示在任务栏上的新增组件都还是跟WFEP有些关系

                              l zw 任务栏上只是显示一个Copilot按钮,协议链接指向microsoft-edge://?ux=copilot&tcp=1&source=taskbar或者microsoft-copilot而已……

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                                ThinkBou 虽然如此,但是我还是得打个补丁。
                                Zac曾经透露今年年底Copilot会有本地运算能力,所以没准Copilot in Windows只是回炉重造了……

                                Microsoft will unveil a new era of Windows and Surface today — Here are the announcements to expect
                                I also expect Microsoft to talk a bit about how it's enabling on-device Generative AI experiences. Up until now, many of the AI experiences on Windows 11 are cloud-based, which allows PCs without NPUs to utilize LLM technology. Starting later this year, Copilot will gain some local generative AI capabilities, including image and text generation which can be handled on-device, reducing their reliance on the cloud on PCs with dedicated NPUs.

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